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performing together and the lumineers performing. if you watch the show enough, you know i'm a bit of a music geek, having interviewed several of the bands who were nominated and won last night including these guys. ♪ may your path be sound ♪ your feet upon the ground ♪ carry on >> fun, winners for best new artist and song of the year, "we are young." i chatted with the band last year around springtime in austin texas at south by southwest. we talked about their grammy nominated album "some nights" and how they get their funky and electric sound. they will remind you it's not just fun, it's fun period. the second album "some nights," it's like something happened and, i mean, what was the magic ingredient do you think? >> i think it was just changing it up a little bit. it was -- the band had kind of a retro vibe in the past and i think we wanted to embrace music
that's happening in the future but still hold on to those things that we love. our parents' albums, like that classic style of song writing but incorporating so many amaze thingses in s iin modern music >> electronic, huge influence, and also '70s pop. is that a cumulation of your musical interests? >> i was trying all these different things i thought maybe i could incorporate to make the album feel more progressive but eventually we listened to a lot of hip-hop and fell in love with that style. >> i said why fun period? they said because fun is already taken. let's take you to washington and wolf blitzer. happening now, a vatican bombshell felt around the world. the pope resigns. life on high alert in southern california right now where there's a million dollar reward
for the ex-police officer suspected of multiple murders. and stunning revelations about the death of osama bin laden from the u.s. navy s.e.a.l. who took him out. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com all that coming up, but there's also developments happening right now in southern california. frayed nerves and a cold trail, as investigators search for the fired los angeles police officer christopher dorner who's declared war on the police, now wanted in the murders of three people. we're standing by for a news conference. the prosecutor is going to be giving us new information. let's check in with cnn's miguel marquez in los angeles for an update. do police have any serious clues right now?
>> reporter: it's not for lack of trying. they are trying to create those clues. they say they have 600 clues that hundreds of investigators are trying to pile through. right now, people are very nervous across the entire state. nervous students return. schools finally reopened in big bear. >> there's a bad guy on the loose and we don't want to get shot by him. >> reporter: today, it's security, along with students. >> today we feel much better. there's a lot of -- you can see a lot of police presence out here. >> reporter: it's the southern california new normal. life on high alert. >> we will not tolerate this reign of terror that has robbed us of the peace of mind that residents of southern california deserve. >> reporter: the search for dorner stretching from nevada to the mexican border and now a warning from tsa to regional airports and airplane owners,
dorner has some flying experience. authorities, concerned about an escape attempt or threat from the air. los angeles police headquarters and its stations across the city remain under guard. the homes of more than 50 lapd families threatened in dorner's manifesto. >> we will capture dorner, we will bring him to justice. >> reporter: investigators say the axle on dorner's truck broke. he left weapons and camping gear behind, torching it all, perhaps a sign his plans went awry, forced to change course. in the mountains east of los angeles, some 600 cabins searched. that trail now cold. dorner sightings pouring in. a los angeles lowe's home store was emptied sunday after a false alarm. shoppers forced out single file. heavy police response. no dorner but plenty of frayed
nerves. now, lapd saying their tactical alert has now been taken down for the moment at least because they have dosh they don't have so many calls around the dorner issue and they're able to handle everything but at the moment it's a huge expense for this agency to keep those 50 families under 24-hour protection. wolf. >> the prosecutor, the riverside county district attorney is briefing reporters. >> -- shot at in the city of corona in our county and then the surviving officer from the riverside police department. so those are the three additional counts for a total of four separate charges. i'd like to identify the people on stage with me. to my left, captain tom weeks, here on the behalf of the corona police department.
i'm sorry, jose perez, who is a deputy chief with the l.a. police department. sergio diaz, the riverside police department chief. and michael moriarty who is a chief in my bureau of investigation. along with my filing of the criminal complaint this morning, we also have obtained a no bail arrest warrant for this individual's apprehension. this individual, by both his words and conduct, has made it very clear to all of us that every law enforcement officer in southern california is in danger of being shot or killed. every day, our law enforcement officers patrol our communities to protect us, as citizens. to keep us safe. now, it is our opportunity, as citizens, to assist our law enforcement officers in the
apprehension of this individual. as they say, there is strength in numbers. we need the help of the public. we need all of the public's eyes and ears in assisting law enforcement in apprehending this very dangerous individual. a centralized command center has been established to support law enforcement's ongoing efforts to apprehend this individual. there are also numerous tip lines that have been established so that the public can contact law enforcement both in los angeles, orange county and riverside county. and as most of you know, there has been a $1 million reward established for the arrest and apprehension and conviction of mr. dorner. to assist us in bringing him to
justice. i would like to recognize all of the law enforcement agencies that are working together cooperatively in this continuing investigation. obviously, the riverside police department, the los angeles police department, the irvine police department, the corona police department, the sheriff's department, riverside sheriff's department, the fbi and the u.s. marshal service. >> there's a huge manhunt under way in southern california right now. this is the riverside county district attorney who is briefing reporters on the charges likely to be filed against this suspect if, in fact, he is apprehended. miguel marquez has been covering this story from the beginning. i assume folks in l.a. and southern california all the way down to san diego, they remain on edge. >> reporter: very much so. there were even some reports of out of phoenix that there was a dorner sighting.
this is really gripping people across the entire southwest now. part of the reason that the d.a. came out today to announce these charges, which is a little different, before you even have the person in custody, they want to turn up the heat as much as possible. they want to reassure the public they are doing everything they can to get this guy and that once he is in custody, if he's even alive at this point, he will be -- you know, have the full weight of the law come down on him. wolf. >> would you say if he's alive at this point, miguel, explain what you mean by that. is there some suspicion he may have killed himself? i mean, what's going on? >> well, either killed himself or got caught in very bad weather up in the mountains there near big bear. keep in mind that the axle to his truck was broken. he burned guns and camping gear in that truck. it suggest, to investigators that he may have been forced off of his script and was forced into the woods essentially and
you would not survive a night in those woods unless you have prepared very, very well for it ahead of time. there's no indication he had done that at this point. wolf. >> miguel marquez, thank you. in our next hour, i'll speak live with the mayor of los angeles antonio villaraigosa. he's here in the situation room. we'll get an update on this manhunt that's causing a lot of problems obviously. other news we're following, it's an event so rare that the last time it happened was some 600 years ago. pope benedict xvi says he'll resign at the end of this month after only eight years as leader of the world's 1 billion roman catholics. he says it's because of his age and his health. and now the question being asked around the world, who will be the next pope? we're watching what's going on. we have several correspondents in rome. pope benedict's papacy has been marked by serious controversies, especially the sex abuse scandal and his prior role as the church's lead investigator
personally handling every single case that made its way to the vatican. cnn's brian todd is working this part of the story for us. we're going to go to rome in just a few moments, but tell us what's going on. >> reporter: wolf, here at the basilica of the national shrine of the immaculate conception they were shocked as anyone. this is the spot where it was one the most talked about moments of his visit to the united states almost five years ago. the place where he addressed one of the biggest controversies of his tenure and there was certainly no shortage of those during his papacy. the scrutiny began before he even assumed the papacy. for decades before his elevation, when he was cardinal john ratzinger, pope benedict xvi had worked as the church's chief investigator into allegations of sex abuse by priest. >> he wrote to every bishop in the world telling them in the letter that every case of a priest that abused a child was to be referred to his department at the vatican. >> reporter: critics said as a
cardinal he was part of the cover-ups of abuse and the practice of moving priests from parish to parish to avoid trouble. i spoke with this reporter from an independent newspaper. was that fair, was he part of the problem? >> i think as part of the general clergy culture, yes. there was one incident highlighted even after he became pope about when he was a bishop in germany, where he knew of accusations against a priest and really didn't act against it. >> reporter: later during his 2008 visit to the united states, pope benedict addressed the issue directly. visiting with abuse victims. it was during that period that he vowed to take on crimes of abuse more directly. and right here at the basilica, one of the biggest catholic churches in the americas, benedict made an extraordinary request. >> translator: we insistently beg forgiveness from god and from the persons involved. while promising to do everything possible to ensure that such abuse will never occur again.
>> reporter: a more extensive apology came later that year in australia where benedict used the words "unequivocal condemnation." there were other controversies. the year after he was elevated, the "ed a byzantine emperor's words saying the prophet mohammed brought things, quote, only evil and unhuman. that touched off protest and outrage in the muslim world. he later clarified, saying those weren't his personal views. last year, the pope's butler was convicted of stealing and leaking documents exposing corruption and disorganization at the vatican. pope benedict carries the stigma of not being as popular as his predecessor, john paul ii. the monsignor of the shrine in washington puts it in perspective. >> christ was controversial. the things that jesus did. the way that he reached out to people. the way he talked to people. the types of people he talked to. it upsettle, many people. >> reporter: and tom roberts points out that pope benedict will be remembered as well for
doing more to actually address the abuse scandal than his predecessor john paul ii ever did. wolf. >> as you know, pope benedict was also involved in a controversy in the united states over the actions of some american nuns. remind our viewers about this. >> reporter: that's right, not long ago, some american nuns challenged the church's teachings on home sexuality, on the male only priesthood. they supported obama's health care plan when the church spoke out against it. these nuns ended up being reprimanded. the nuns got a lot of support within the united states for their actions. it was controversial for the pope. he was also prompted to do that by some pressure from conservative religious figures in the united states. so that ended up being one of the more controversial moments of his papacy and it had to do of course with quite a few popular american nuns here in the united states. >> brian todd, thanks very much. and later here in "the situation room," i'll speak with cardinal
theodore mccarrick. he is in rome right now and he's got some unique perspectives on what's going on. also bishop o'connell, former president the catholic university of america. much more on this story coming up. let's get some more, though, right now on pope benedict 16. he was born joseph ratzinger in germany. he became a cardinal in 1977. he was chief theological adviser to pope john paul ii. he was elected pope in 2005. he was then 78 years old. the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health. which made his resignation today even more surprising. since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. once again, much more on this story coming up. the shocking resignation of pope benedict xvi. i'll talk, among other things, to the man who introduced me to the holy father here in washington back in 2000.
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let's get more now on the sudden resignation of pope benedict xvi. he stunned all of us, he stunned the world, with his announcement this morning. in rome, cnn's jim bittermann. he says he's going to resign at the end of this month. what is the time line for electing a new pontiff? >> reporter: well, we really don't know that, wolf, because this is so different from what, anything else that's happened in the past. basically the only hints we've
gotten is from the vatican spokesman who say basically there will be a new pope before easter. that's march. he also said there will be no conclave to elect a new pope before the present pope resigns, the 2th of february. so between the 1st of march and the 31st of march the 118 cardinals will gather here and elect a new pope. one of the things that's different from this from previous occasion, when you have a pope that's died, in fact, there's a period of mourning. so the cardinal also have time to gather. this time around, the time to gather for the cardinals is -- basically the clock has started running when the pope made his announcement this morning. they can start making their travel plans. they could be here by the 1st of march, wolf. >> they'll meet in the first of march and let's say by the end of march, by easter, they've come up with someone who will be the new pontiff. so what's been the reaction there at the vatican? was everybody stunned by this or were those inner circle folks basically aware of what pope
benedict xvi was about to do? >> reporter: i think it was a real stunner. although some people said that he had talked to his brother about the possibility of resigning. he had also said, himself, when he was still a cardinal, he said that when a pope gets very ill, he probably shouldn't stay in office, he should consider resigning. i think that's what he's applying in his own case. one of the things that's interesting about this, wolf, too, in terms of the time line, going back to that for a second, is the fact that usually while a pope is lying in state here, there's a period of a week or ten days of mourning in which the cardinals get together in small groups and they talk among themselves, they kind of size each other up and decide who might be papal material. that might not happen this time around if all the cardinals fly in and they immediately go into a conclave and the conclave itself can be very short. in the case of benedict xvi, it was only 24 hours. he was basically elected after the fourth ballot, wolf. >> we'll have much more on this story later. jim bittermann on the scene in
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wow-a grt deal just got a whole lot better. hurry. $14.95 won't last. in 2008, i had the opportunity to meet pope benedict xvi when he visited the united states. he came to the catholic university of america, right here in washington, d.c. i was invited by father david o'connell who was then the president of catholic university. father o'connell is now a bishop. he's joining us live from his diocese of trenton, new jersey. bishop, thank you so much for joining us. thank you so much for obviously inviting me to catholic university to meet with pope benedict xvi. you remember that day, it was an incredible day for you, an incredible day for me. i'll never forget the honor that you bestowed on me. of course, as someone who
received an honorary degree from catholic university, gave the commencement address, i feel very close to your university. just remind our viewers what happened on that day. >> well, it was a great day. probably the most memorable day of my life. i had invited the pope when he was a cardinal to come to catholic university. he wasn't able to come. and so after his election as pope and his decision to come to the united states, he wrote and said one of the places he wanted to visit in addition to ground zero and the united nations was the catholic university of america. so i was thrilled that he was able to come. it was such a beautiful day, as you remember, with all our thousands and thousands of students cheering him on, signs all over the place, "rocky the pope." people really loved it. and the pope really was very, very touched by the outpouring of love and affection for him. >> all of us were thrilled to meet pope benedict xvi, especially my old friend from buffalo, new york, the late tim russert of nbc news, who himself
was catholic, and remember how excited he was holding that holy bible as he met with pope benedict xvi. all of us were excited but especially tim. i'll never forget the look on his face, the stunned, how passionate and excited he was. those were incredible days, i must say. thank you for inviting us. >> oh, you're welcome. did i ever tell you the story about tim? tim had written around to the cardinal and the nuncio and all these other people asking for the opportunity to meet the pope and they said it wasn't possible. i had the ten guests to invite and of course i was friendly with tim so he lucked out that day. >> he certainly did. he was like a little boy there, i'll never forget, a little choir boy standing in front of pope benedict xvi. didn't open his mouth. first time in my life i saw tim russert afraid to open his mouth and say anything to pope benedict xvi. so let's talk about today. you wake up this morning, you
hear the stunning news. what did you think? >> well, i got a tap on my door by my secretary, and he said, bishop, the pope has resigned. and i thought i was dreaming. he said, it's all over the news. i got up and turned on cnn and of course it was all over the news. i was stunned like the rest of the world. i mean, i don't think anybody expected this announcement today. in fact, i was talking with cardinal dolan last night and, in new york, and no indication of an expectation this was happen. so it really was a shocking announcement. >> you actually, i believe, correct me if i'm wrong, but you had a meeting scheduled with pope benedict? >> yes, i was invited to a private audience on march 6th of, you know, the coming year, march 6th, i was going to be in rome for a meeting of the board of trustees of st. john's university.
and i had been notified i would have a private audience with the holy father on march the 6th. now that's all changed. >> so walk us through the process. and your understanding what happens. he steps down at the end of this month. they'll be a period whether -- will there be an acting pope? what happens before a new pope is elected? >> well, you know, this is just very unusual. it's almost a new experience for us. this hasn't happeneded for almost 700 years. since the last time a pope resigned i think was 1415, pope gregory, one of the gregories, the pope has always died in office, and so we had a period of mourning and mass and then the cardinals would gather from all over the world. so he had a period of time that was just part and parcel of the process. we don't have that situation here. the pope has not died. the pope has resigned. has left the office. and so there probably will not
be a long period, what they call an empty chair, there probably won't be a long period before the conclave is summoned and the cardinals make their vote. >> pope benedict xvi is, what, 85, almost 86 years old. he was 78 when he became the pontiff. do you think it would be wise to select someone younger so someone would serve for a longer tenure? >> well, it's interesting, you know, in our lifetime, pope paul vi was in his 80s. pope john paul ii was in his 80s when he died. pope benedict, he's almost 86. you know, it depends, it depends. what the cardinals are looking for. what the cardinals are seeking. in someone to take pope benedict's place. you know, in my mind, we watched pope john paul become a grandfather. pope benedict walked out on the world stage as a grandfather.
and was just an interesting different experience of his fatherly qualities, as you know from having met him, you know the gentle kind way that he had. but, you know, i think that depends on what the college of cardinals is looking for. you know, pope benedict was a teacher. and he spent his pontiffate, his papacy, teaching. he taught well and with great clarity. so it's a matter of preference of the college of cardinals and also, as we believe in the church, the working of the holy spirit. >> we'll stay in very close touch with you, bishop, thank you so much. thanks for everything that you've done. thanks for inviting me to catholic university, once between. i really appreciate it. and thanks for coming here to "the situation room." >> it's great to be with you, wolf, you take care, god bless. >> god bless you as well. we're going to continue our coverage. the stunning news out of the vatican today.
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a devoted husband, father and friend. thousands are paying tribute to the slain ex-navy s.e.a.l. at cowboy stadium. we're going to go there later this hour. right now, let's get to our strategy session. joining us, donna brazile, our democratic strategist. a cnn contributor. and ana navarro, republican strategist, also a cnn contributor. let me start with you, donna. the president is engaged in a major effort right now to try to
get some serious gun control measures into law. he's going on friday to chicago. that's, there's been a plague of gun violence in chicago. he's presumably going to mention guns in his state of the union address. the family of the slain teenaged girl would came to washington for the inauguration, the first lady went to her funeral over the weekend. the family will sit with mrs. obama in the gallery tomorrow night. can he change the outcome as a result of what he might say tomorrow night? because it's not looking great as far as really significant changes, legislative changes are concerned. >> you know, i think the president going to address gun safety issues tomorrow and perhaps put back on the table universal background checks as something that most reasonable people in this country agree upon. the vice president has also made a big push, an initiative to get sheriffs and law enforcement officials. gabby giffords will also be sitting in that audience tomorrow. several members of congress are
inviting people who have been victims of gun violence in their local areas who also come and listen to the president. but i think tomorrow night the president will want to talk to the american people about the state of the economy, about job creation, about what it will take to get this economy strong and vibrant so we can put people back to work as well. >> do you think on guns, ana, he can get any major initiatives through congress? >> i think if he listens to donna brazile and focuses on something like background checks he will. i hear a lot of republicans telling me there is space to negotiate. >> what about the magazines? >> i think that's a much tougher -- >> assault-type weapons. >> we just saw before coming on here another shooting, another tragedy. this is not going to stop. the drumbeat from this is not going to come from president obama, from congress, it's going to come from all these tragedies that do not cease happening. i think they need to come
together, both, and come up with something. i think it's going to be universal background checks. i am not sure there's going to be more than that. >> donna, there's democrats who are not happy about stricter assault-type weapons legislation or magazines. >> i'm from the south. i mean, i grew up with responsible gun owners. there are are many not just southern democrats and western democrats who would like to see that preserved. but they still have concern. i mean, you've seen the senator from west virginia, joe manchin who said he wants to sit and work with dianne feinstein from california. so before we, you know, figure out how we're going to resolve this, i think the democrats will have to conference together and come with up some reasonable solutions. >> a very big agenda will put so many democrats in a very precarious position. >> that's what happened in '94. let's move on and talk about marco rubio for a second. he's going to deliver the official republican response in english and in spanish. the first time someone will do that in spanish. then there will be another response from senator rand paul of kentucky, representing the
tea party. he was on "state of the union" yesterday with candy crowley. listen to what he said. >> i see it as extra response. i don't see it as necessarily divisive. i won't say anything on there that necessarily is, like, oh, marco rubio is wrong. he and i don't always agree but the thing is this isn't about he and i, this is about the tea party. >> what do you think, is this going to take away anything from rubio, that shortly thereafter we'll hear from rand paul reflecting the tea party? >> i really don't think so. if you compare the attention that marco rubio's response is getting with what rand paul's response is getting, it's a completely different ball game. you know what, let me tell you, it is a very risky platform. both for rubio and for paul. it is the toughest gig in politics, to follow a state of the union with all the pomp and circumstance. you're following the president of the united states who just got a number of standing ovations, giving the biggest speech the year.
it's not an easy gig. if he wants to take a shot at it, i don't thing it's competition. i think it's one more. if he wants to address the specific concerns of the tea party, more power to him. >> very quickly. >> first of all, i think marco rubio is a tea party republican. and his job is to help rebrand and reach out to moderates and independents and rand paul is going to remind the country that the republican party is fractured and divided and there's a civil war going on inside that party. >> we'll see what happens. thanks very much. when we come back, we'll check in on what happened after that huge tornado ripped through parts of mississippi. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make someone happy.♪ it's so important to make meone happy.♪ ♪make just one someone happy ♪and you will be happy too. [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal co
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take a look at this. the largest most devastating of at least 15 tornadoes that tore across the deep south. this one in hattiesburg, mississippi. cnn's david mattingly is on the scene for us. it looks awful. how they doing over there? >> reporter: the tornado that touched down here where i'm standing was packing winds of 130 to 140-mile-per-hour winds and you can see what kind of damage it does. while today mississippi residents are assessing the damage, they're doing so with a great sense of relief. >> they're just trees. be careful. >> reporter: joan stevens and her husband ray survived the tornado that blackened the skies other hattiesburg. the funnel was one of several tornadoes to batter this part of mississippi. the stevens house is in pieces but they made it out without a
scratch. >> right here. aggie was right here, our dog. >> i just got her under me and i was laying on her. >> we were just literally all right here on the floor. just covered up on each other. >> reporter: it could have been so much worse for so many. 200 houses and 100 apartments were damaged or destroyed. in the immediate aftermath, there were no deaths. only two were seriously injured. the stevens credit warning sirens the city installed just two years ago. >> we had been watching television since we got home from church. >> reporter: so you were ready for this. >> we were ready as ready could be. >> reporter: the steve bes said they had a matter of minutes from the time they first heard the alarm to when the storm actually hit. after, when they came out and saw all this damage, they realized that warning was just enough for people to take cover. because when they started checking on their neighbors, no one on this street, in spite of all this damage, was hurt. the national weather service says parts hattiesburg had up to
30 minutes warning before the tornado touched down. city officials also say that timing of the storm was fortunate. on a sunday afternoon, the local high school was almost empty when it hit. and the university of southern mississippi, one historic building badly damaged, had fewer than usual students on campus because of a mardi gras holiday. there were countless close calls. hattiesburg's mayor was one of them. >> this is seconds. >> reporter: you were running for your life? >> for my life. >> reporter: the mayor managed to get inside his house just in time. the hundred year old home and the neighborhood took a beating. looking at all the damage, is there one thing that really, really hurts today? >> here? >> reporter: here, in your house? >> no, because we can replace all this. no. nothing hurts. no, not here. nobody in hattiesburg was killed, no fatalities. the rest of this can be replaced.
>> reporter: and, yes, it can be replaced. so the order of the day, clear the roads and get the electricity restored to the 4,000 people who are still without power. and it hasn't been easy today, as you can see, it has been raining here, wolf, all day long. >> the destruction is awesome. the building right behind you looks awful. what is it? >> reporter: this is an historic building on the campus here in hattiesburg. that took full brunt of the tornado that came through here. again, it is a historic building. no one was inside at the time. no one was hurt. everyone talking about how soon they're going to start damage repair, get things put back together. >> we wish all the folks in hattiesburg all the best. the former navy s.e.a.l. sniper chris kyle is remembered as an american hero. thousands of people are paying tribute to him at a public memorial service at dallas cowboy stadium. kyle was gunned down by a fellow
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>> she was crying all and everything and she just wants off of the ship. i mean, it's horrible. they're having to use the restroom in buckets and bags. >> reporter: two sisterships restocked the triumph with extra food and drinks. carnival says there's limited hot food and coffee for guests. a coast guard cutter and two tug boats met the ship monday so the vessel could be towed to the nearest port, progreso, mexico. >> we believe everything here is safe and secure. the communications with the master has been open and honest. >> reporter: a similar engine failure happened just two years ago when carnival's splendor lost power and was adrift for days off the coast of mexico. one passenger reflects on his experience. >> since it was a vacation, i feel like it was a waste of my time pretty much and money to save up for it and then actually go on a trip. i think that the worst part about this experience for me was
the food was starting to spoil and it was just god-awful smells coming from their kitchen areas. god-awful smells coming from their bathrooms. overflowing toilets. >> reporter: as for the triumph, it's expected to make it to progreso, mexico, wednesday. carnival will fly passengers back to the united states and reimburse them for their original travel expenses. carnival is canceling the vessel's next two trips. wolf. you're in "the situation room." happening now, the former navy s.e.a.l. who killed osama bin laden is breaking his silence. plus, the massive manhunt for an ex-cop. the mayor of los angeles joins me live this hour to talk about the latest on the search. and just what's behind the pope's resignation? we're taking a closer look at his health. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room."
-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com they're being called the three shots that changed history. for the first time, the former navy s.e.a.l. who actually killed osama bin laden is now speaking out. his account of the days, the hours, the minutes, leading up to that one minute is gripping. as is the story of his life right now. and it's all in the new issue of "esquire" magazine. and the author of this amazing article is joining us now, phil bronstein is joining us from new york. thanks very much for coming in. thanks for writing a terrific piece. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate it. >> let me read to you from the article, a quote from the shooter, and you don't identify him by name, just call him the shooter. i remember as i watched him breathe out the last part of
air, i thought, is this the best thing i've ever done or the worst thing i've ever done? this is real and that's him. go into detail a little bit. what was it like for this shooter to be the man who killed bin laden? >> well, i think he points out in the piece more, on more than one occasion, it could have been any one of his colleagues. a couple dozen s.e.a.l. 6 team members there. he even told a couple people on the assault team he thought it would be them. but he just happened to be the number two guy behind the point man who went up to the third floor of the building where osama bin laden had his quarters and the point man took these two women who were out screaming in the hallway, members of the household, put them aside very heroically because they might have been wearing vests, suicide vests, and exploded themselves.
the shooter kind of rolled right into bin laden's bedroom and found himself face-to-face. i think right now, he talks about how he registered -- first of all, he was very unused to this idea of shooting up. so he wasn't prepared for somebody quite as tall as bin laden. bid laden was much taller than he expected. he talks about having to aim his gun up. he also talks about bin laden's short beard and short haircut. all of that registered in a moment. remember, the whole thing happened in seconds he shot him once in the forehead. another time in the forehead as he was going down. and then a third time in the forehead when he was at the foot of his bed. probably already dead. and afterwards he was a little shocked and he said, i just killed osama bin laden. and one of his colleagues came up and said, let's go downstairs and start loading up. we need to load up on all the computers and hard drives and everything else that was on the second floor. he said, okay, i'm back, i'm back, let's go do that. that's what he did.
>> how did he come across to you in talking about all these very sensitive details, the raid, the killing of bin laden, his demeanor, for example. what's he like? >> well, he's hilariously funny. he's very wry. he can be very gruff. he can be a little off putting if you don't know him. he's a big guy, as a lot of these guys are. lots of tattoos as a lot of them have. and essentially i mean things changed over time. because, remember, i met him a year and a quarter ago. and he was still on s.e.a.l. team 6 and it wasn't that far from the killing of bin laden itself. and then came to know him over a pretty long period of time with pretty regular contact. both phone contact and a lot of in person conversations. so i got to know him, which was the key here. >> the book "no easy day," his account differs from the account described by the shooter to you.
you're very confident that the account the shooter gave you is the definitive account. >> i am, wolf. obviously, he was a great warrior in the s.e.a.l.s. he gets nothing but respect from everyone including the shooter. his book was riveting reading. i read it. i would recommend it to people. yes, there was discrepancy about who is the number two man. he does not say he's the one who shot bin laden in the head. help says when he came in the room, bin laden was dying on the floor. yes, there's a discrepancy about the number two. i certainly can't speak for matt bisonet. over time, again, a lot of conversations with other s.e.a.l.s. conversation, dinner parties that happened right after the event. where members of the mission were talking. i talked to a lot of people who were at those dinner parties. and i put some of these things in the story. one of them being there's a guy called "the mentor" who's an older former s.e.a.l., former cia, former blackwater, who
mentors the shooter, and he has friends in very high places, you can imagine, and someone very high in government called him two hours after the raid and said, it was your guy, meaning the shooter. >> another passage from your article that jumped out at me for obvious reasons. may 1st, 2012. the first anniversary of the bin laden mission. the shooter is getting ready to go play with his kids at a water park. he's watching cnn. they were saying, so now we're taking viewer e-mails. do you remember where you were when you found out osama bin laden was dead? and i was thinking, of course i remember, i was in his bedroom looking down at his body. it's just a very telling situation. a year later, he's trying to go through a normal life but his life is anything but normal. let's pick up the story from there. because he's got some major problems right now. just briefly walk us through some of them. >> okay. well, you know, i work at the center for investigative reporting and our reporter has done some ground-breaking work
on the problems that all vets have with the veterans administration. i think they're commonly known now. it's a nine-month average wait for you to get your disability claims adjudicated. so there's that. that's true of all vets. in this particular case, and in other cases, this shooter served 16 years. 16 years. the vast majority going on deployment after deployment. killed 30-plus people sometimes face-to-face. went on hundreds of missions. and he gets out four years early, a 20-year retirement. he gets no pension. zero pension. he's worried about the safety of his family should his name come out, as matt bisonette's name came out. and matt went up on a jihadi website. there's no protections for his family. the s.e.a.l. command offered him the possibility of witness protection. like a mafia snitch. and they don't have that even set up yet. so he talks about teaching his wife how to put the kids in
their bathtub in their house because there's a retaining wall, which is safety there. and how he taught his wife to sit on the bed next door, proper elbow and shoulder against the wall and shoot a long gun through the door should anything happen. so he's still concerned about his safety, as he should be. >> is he making a living? is he able to put food on the table? he's not getting a pension, as you point out, from the u.s. navy. how's he doing on a day-to-day basis? >> well, i make a purposely vague reference to the fact that he's gotten some work in recent months. i would call it a kind of consulting. but the problem is is it's not consistent. he doesn't know how long it's going to last. he still has the same bills he had when he was in the navy. >> the navy put out a statement, response to your article. it says this. we have no information to corroborate these new assertions. we take seriously the safety and security of our people, as well as our responsibility to assist sailors making a transition to
civilian life. what does he think of the response of the navy over these past few years since he went out there and killed bin laden? what do you think of the way the navy has dealt with this? >> he's very disappointed. his wife is very disappointed. one of his friends who is still on s.e.a.l. team 6 tell me he was about to go on deployment and he said, you know, the navy does well with life insurance. if i go over there and i get killed, i know my kids will go to school, will go to college. my wife will be okay because of the life insurance. if i don't get killed and i come back, i don't think i can say the expression that he said in the story, but he won't have anything, is his view. and these guys -- many of these guys think the only skills they have are hunting and killing. because that's what they do. in fact, they have extraordinary executive skills. they know how to act in a crisis. they know how to remain calm. >> maybe some employer who's read your article or seen this
interview might want to get in touch with this individual and offer him a job. and see what happens down the road. the article is entitled the man who killed osama bin laden is screwed. that's the name of the article. phil bronstein is the author. thanks very much for doing this, thanks for coming in. >> wolf, it's good to see you, thank you. >> we want to note that cnn has not independently verified that the shooter in this "esquire" article is, indeed, the man who killed osama bin laden. many details of the mission obviously remain highly, highly classified. our own pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is taking a closer look. he's investigating in his special report, in our next hour, chris lawrence at the pentagon. president obama's state of the union address. just a little more than 24 hours away. will it help repair the growing divide in washington? or will it make things even worse? plus, three days after a monster blizzard peraralyzed pas of the northeast, some people
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last time democrats and republicans joined together for a rare ceremonial moment of bipartisan was for president obama's second inauguration. the honeymoon did not last. just over 24 hours from now, they'll meet again on capitol hill for the president's state of the union address. and whether any of that bipartisanship spirit can be revived remains obviously to be seen. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is here in "the situation room" getting ready for a little preview of the president's speech. our national political correspondent jim acosta has a look ahead at the republican response. jessica, first to you what can we expect? i know you're talking to a lot of sources. what can we expect from the president tomorrow night? >> first, the president is going to pivot back to the economy and talk about jobs. but he's also going to take on republicans over debt and taxes.
expect him to say that congressional inaction on spending will hurt the economy and call on the gop to compromise. the president tomorrow night is going to make an appeal for economic equality in the tax code and in the way spending cuts are decided, which republicans are likely to view as partisan. multiple sources also tell me on other fronts he's going to strike more bipartisan themes. for example, on immigration reform, he will emphasize common ground, and on gun safety, he'll call for action. i'm told he will not make new policy, but, rather, advocate for existing positions. he's going to spend less time on foreign policy than on the economy but that's always the case in his state of the union speeches. on those fronts, expect him to address the drawdown in afghanistan, the u.s. relationship with china and also announce the start of a u.s./european union trade negotiation. big picture, wolf, it sounds like when it comes to republicans, he'll sort of have a club in one hand and olive branch in the other. >> it sounds like he's going to
be emphasizing many of the themes he emphasized in the inaugural address. how will this one substantively be a whole lot different? >> his aides say to me that one was the philosophical statement of his beliefs. this one puts molcy meat on the bones. i'm told he will also talk about gay rights, women's rights and climate change. the big difference from the inaugural is the president views tomorrow night as his big opportunity to speak to the american people about the stakes in those across the board budget cuts looming at the end of the month and make his economic case, again, to the american people. speak over congress to the american people. and a side note, tomorrow night is going to be the last big speech written by john falfro, his firspeechwriter for all the years. >> so did john write the speech tomorrow night? >> this was overseen by cody
keenan. but favro had a big role in it. >> the president writes a lot of his own speeches too. >> yes, of course he does. tomorrow is a big night for the president. it's also a huge moment for two rising republican stars and possible presidential contenders who will deliver, shall we say, dueling state of the union responses. our national political correspondent jim acosta is here with this part of the story. what are you picking up? >> rubio and paul say the the two responses don't mean the gop is divided going into tomorrow night. one party official is calling the twin speeches a victory for the conservative movement. after the state of the union, it's the matchup washington will be watching. in one corner, florida senator marco rubio, dubbed the republican savior on the cover of "time" magazine. giving the gop response to president obama. >> had someone been aware of these things -- >> in the other corner, kentucky senator rand paul with the
reaction from the tea party movement. for both men, the duels speeches with another sign of their sudden star power. just three years ago, rubio was a tea party favorite but a long shot for the senate when he sat down with cnn for one of his first interviews. will you be the first tea party senator if elected? >> i'm running as a republican. >> little more than two years later, he had a prime speaking slot at the republican convention. >> i don't want unemployment to be that high and yet it has been so under this president. >> now he's a leading voice on imcombinatimigration reform. >> the president has to answer why his party controlled the house and senate for two year, he did absolutely nothing on immigration. >> we're coming to take our government back. >> paul, who also rode the tea party wave into the senate in 2010, says his response to the president will be different. >> i think, really, there's some things that i will emphasize that maybe marco doesn't. >> a reminder the conservative movement hasn't gone anywhere. >> i don't always agree but the thing is, this isn't about he
and i. this is about the tea party. >> the chair of the tea party express tells cnn, tuesday night, we have two tea party senators respond to the president's state of the union address. that is historic. gop strategist ana navarro says make no mistake, rubio is a republican first. >> i think marco rubio's a republican senator. he's always been a republican. i've known him for 20 years from republican politics in south florida. at the same time, he's very receptive, embraces a lot of the concepts that the tea party stands for. >> it's rubio's rise that has caught the attention of top democrats who brushed off his upcoming, high-profile address in this conference call with reporters. >> they don't think there's anything wrong with their policies, they think they just need to package them better. you can't put lipstick on a pig. >> now, even though rubio and paul could square off as presidential contenders in 2016, there's no overt gamesmanship in the run-up to their dueling speeches. the tea party express says it will be careful not to step on
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if you know anything about where christopher dorner is right now, you could be a million dollars richer. that's the reward being offered by the city of los angeles to find the ex-cop suspected of killing three people last week. it's apparently all in retaliation for being fired from the los angeles police department. a firing which the chief now says he'll personally review. let's talk about what's going on in the search and of course much more. the mayor of los angeles, antonio villaraigosa, is joining us right now. mayor, thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you, wolf. let me just clarify, although i spearheaded the effort to raise the money, the million dollars, the city of riverside, the county of riverside, a lot of folks participated. i want to acknowledge them as well. >> any real clues? has the trail gone cold or are you on to something right now, without, obviously, jeopardizing
the investigation. >> well, thank you, that's the key, we don't want to jeopardize the investigation. we are following every single lead. there's more than 1,000, probably into the thousands of leads here. and we've got the best investigators. the best detectives on this. we're collaborating with law enforcement agencies, including our federal partners, the fbi, the marshals service. we're doing everything we can to bring this man to justice. we're hoping this reward, an unprecedented size, $1 million reward, will help us bring him to justice as quickly as possible. there are a lot of very anxious people. you know, some 50 people on the list including their families. and we want to make sure that this man doesn't do any more harm to the public. >> these 50 people i assume are getting special security protection, right? >> yes, they are, but, remember, he killed three innocent people who had nothing to do with any of this. he killed them in cold blood.
he -- they were not in any way related to this effort. and so, you know, the families of these police officers are all under supervision, under -- we have police protecting them right now. it's a pretty difficult time for them and their families. >> are you using a drone or drones in this search? as some have speculated? >> we're not using drones but we're using a lot of -- every other equipment we have at our disposal. you know, we were up in the mountains, san bernardino sheriffs were up in the mountains looking for him and have been. we're following every single lead. we're using every technology we can. we're not using drones. >> if he's watching you right now, mayor, what do you say to him? look into that camera and talk to him. >> i'd say, christopher, turn yourself in. you've caused a lot of pain and
anguish to too many families. you've got to turn yourself in. if you really are someone who was innocently accused in the way you say you were, than please, you've done enough harm. turn yourself in. >> let me make the turn while i have you, mayor, to immigration. you've been on the forefront in the battle to get comprehensionive immigration reform. how confident are you that the president will stress this tomorrow night in his state of the union address and that something productive from your perspective will be achieved? >> i think he's going to talk a lot about jobs and the economy. about the issue of sequestration and the damage it could do to our economy. it could put us back into a recession. the need for balanced cuts. and balanced approach to solving this issue. i hope he does speak about immigration. i expect that he will. i do think there is a confluence
of support increasing in the senate for a comprehensive immigration reform that includes a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million people who are here that requires that they, you know, get at the end of the line and earn that citizenship. but we're a bit away from getting that kind of support in the house. i'm hoping that with a senate movement, that the house will pass this and maybe get away from that rule so we can get the support. >> is there something special you would like to hear from the president? >> well, i think we expect that he's going to say that he's for it. that he's going to fight for it. that he believes in it. that it's important to our economy.
it's important to the values that we represent as a country. that we've done a lot to secure the border. as you know, according to the migration policy institute, there's now a net migration minus. they're going the other way from the united states to mexico, not from mexico to the united states. we spend more money on border security today than for the budgets of the fbi, the dea and the atf. it's time to provide a pathway. i think that's what he'll emphasize. >> before i let you go, quickly, mayor, the pope stunned all of us, stunned the whole world, by announcing today that he was resigning at the end of this month. you're catholic. you must have been stunned to hear it as well. are you hoping that the next pontiff ll have, shall we say, a more liberal position when it comes to gay marriage, for example, or abortion rights for women? do you support both of those? >> yes, i do. let me just say that i think it's refreshing that the pope
has decided that because of his frail health and his strength that he's stepping aside. this is something we haven't seen in more than 600 years. i think that's refreshing. yes, i would like to see our church get into the 21st century. i do believe -- i am catholic and -- practicing catholic, but i would like to see some changes in our church. i'd like to see much more involvement on the part. i think we need to acknowledge there are things we do currently that we should change. >> you leave office june 30th. can you give us a hint what's next for antonio villaraigosa? >> i've said for some time i'm going to work as hard as i can till the end of the road, and then i'm going to gallop into the sunset, if you will. we still have a lot to do. we have to balance our budget.
we have to open up a new international terminal. we're going to sign agreements to get off of coal by 2025. we're dredging our harbor to compete with panama. i'm going to work as hard as i can to the last day. >> you've got a media challenge right now. let me wrap up a final thought on the search for this killer, three people, he's still on the loose. you're telling us there are clues. is it fair to say you're hot on the trail or are you at a dead end? >> well, it's fair to say we're on the trail. i can't say hot on the trail. i will say this, we will find him. make no mistake. i hope he turns himself in. that's the right thing. let's not have any more bloodshed or any more people hurt. but we're going to find him. we're going to follow every lead. >> mayor villaraigosa, thanks for coming in. >> thank you, wolf. it's that vatican bombshell felt around the world. we're going live to rome to tell you who are some of the likely
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ouellet, cardinal here in the vatican. two candidates who were around last time around, angelo scola, archbishop in milan. and the archbishop in vienna. there are a lot of names out there. one of the things they say, wolf, if you go into a conclave as a pope, you come out as a cardinal. basically, speculation really doesn't do much good. we were last time around, we here at the vatican were watching and speculating quite a bit and, in fact, got proven wrong. so we were surprised at cardinal ratzinger got elevated to pope benedict xvi so plenty of surprises. i don't think anybody expected this to happen the way it did this morning. >> yeah, we were all stunned when we got word early this morning. when do we expect a decision from the college of cardinals?
>> i think basically we're looking at a time frame that's going to -- the clock has really started ticking already with this announcement this morning. basically the cardinals themselves will start making plans to come to rome. even though they have not been officially notified at least up till now, have not been officially notified, that there will a gathering of the college of cardinals. but one would expect that they will be clearing their agendas and making plans to come sometime after the pope resigns. the vatican spokesman said this morning, in fact, nothing would happen in terms the college of cardinals till after the pope officially steps down, the 28th of february. so, in fact, the clock is really running right now. how this will all unfold is another question. whether or not they'll be brought to rome early for meetings before the conclave or whether they'll come to rome and just go right into the conclave. these things are unknown because we're in totally uncharted territory. >> jim bittermann.
we'll watch together with you. thank you. pope benedict in announcing his resignation said this, and i'm quoting, strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months has deteriorated in me to the extent that i have had to recognize my inka passty to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. powerful words from the pope. our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen is joining us to give us more about the pope's health. what do we know, elizabeth? >> wolf, we really don't know much. the pope hasn't gone into many specifics about his health. but here's what we do know and here's what we know about the pressure s of his job. being pope isn't easy. leading a church counting more than 1 billion members, pope benedict xvi rises early, leading mass, performing baptisms, meeting with world leaders. traveling to israel, the united kingdom, jordan, latin america. the pace picks up more in the
weeks before easter. we don't know much about his health tris. he suffered a brain hemorrhage in 1991 and in 2001 he fell, requiring surgery. perhaps most significant, pope benedict is 85. making him the oldest pope in more than 100 years and among the oldest in the church history. >> the holy father is 85 and we can appreciate how at that age the weight of the office of the papacy is a very heavy weight. >> pope benedict was a close aid to pope john paul ii and would have seen up close how his health deteriorated. from parkinson's, arthritis and several surgeries, while still retaining the papacy. pope benedict has been thinking for some time about resigning. he even discussed it with his brother, also a priest, according to a family friend. he was told by doctors to stop traveling overseas according to his brother. in a 2010 interview, pope
benedict is quoted as saying, if a pope clearly realizes that he is no longer physically, psychologically and spiritually capable of handling the duty of his office, he has a right and under some circumstances also an obligation, to resign. it may be that pope benedict made up his mind years ago he would break tradition and resign while still alive. earlier today on cnn, thomas wenski, the archbishop of miami, said he saw the pope a few years ago and he was alert but certainly frail. wolf. >> we wish the pontiff only the best obviously. thanks very much, elizabeth cohen. for full coverage of the pope's resignation, the latest developments in the vatican, be sure to go to cnn.com. lots of information right there. a bipartisan pick that is definitely not getting bipartisan support. why former republican senator chuck hagel still has hurdles to jump before becoming the country's next defense secretary.
there's a job you'd think would have support from basically everyone. it's the job of the secretary of defense. it's supposed to be a nonpartisan position in charge the largest arguably most important segment of the government. but that's far from the case for the president's nominee chuck hagel. joining us now is our chief political analyst gloria borger. carl levin said there will be a vote in the committee tomorrow. is this train leaving the station? >> yeah, i think the train is leaving the station. he wants to have a vote quickly. you have senator lindsey graham, republican, saying that he's going to put a hold on this nomination till he gets some
more answers from the administration about the attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi. just listen to what the president's press secretary jay carney said about that, wolf. >> what is unfortunate here is the continuing attempt to politicize an issue, in this case, through the nominees who themselves had nothing to do with benghazi, and to do so in a way that only does harm to our national security interests. >> so what lindsey graham is trying to do is really stall the nomination and, in talking to hag hagel's supporters today and even to some republicans in the senate, they believe that hagel, in the end, will have the 60 votes needed to break any kind of a filibuster and the democrats hope to have a vote on him sometime later in the week, perhaps wednesday or thursday on the senate floor. so it looks like hagel's going to make it. >> even his supporters are acknowledging even if he is
confirmed, he might not escape unscathed, shall we say. >> even his supporters admit, we've been talking about this, they say, look, his performance before the committee is not what they would have hoped. that he made mistakes on questions that he should have had the answers to particularly regarding iran. you're going to go, now, and run the pentagon. and the question is how are the people inside the pentagon going to react to him. will there be a hangover from that. he's got a lot of work to do. you have those pending cuts at the defense department. you've got to wind down a war in afghanistan. and also you have to downsize the military. so the job is immense. and you have to have confidence inside the building to do it well. and so that's, you know, that's a question that does come out of this entire process. >> jack lew has been nominated by the president to be the next treasury secretary. all of a sudden, there's an issue involving the cayman islands that has come out. how significant, what's going on? >> there's a question of whether
jack lew's had a cayman investment through citigroup that is not unlike the one that mitt romney had in his portfolio. look, jack lew has been confirmed twice before. this is not going to hold him up. but it does allow republicans to kind of say what's good for the goose is good for the gander. okay, you democrats raised a question about cayman island investments for mitt romney. we're going to raise it for lew. a little payback, i would say. >> confirmed twice in the obama administration, once more in the clinton administration when he was budget director. >> you're right, three times. >> i know a lot about jack lew. thank you very much. over 4,000 people stranded with no power, no running water and limited food, and this isn't after a massive blizzard. this was supposed to be a vacation.
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powerful storms leave mississippi emergency crews with their hands full. lisa sylvester's here. she's monitoring that, some of the other top stories in the "the situation room." what's the latest, lisa? >> wolf, several thousand people still have no power and there's widespread damage in seven mississippi counties. pretty bad storms swept through that area yesterday evening, damaging or destroying hundreds of homes. dozens of people were hurt, two of them critically. a tornado slammed hattiesburg. that is where the university of southern mississippi is located. and the governor there, phil bryant, he has declared a state of emergency. near dallas, texas thousands of mourners were on hand at cowboys stadium for today's memorial service for a former navy s.e.a.l. sniper who was shot and killed allegedly by a fellow veteran. 38-year-old chris kyle and a
friend were gunned down at a shooting range february 2nd. kyle served four tours in iraq, received two silver stars, and co-authored the book "american sniper." he will be buried in austin tomorrow. in other news, one step at a time for boeing and its troubled dreamliner. the aircraft manufacturer conducted its second test flight of one of the planes similar to the one seen here on a so-called ferry flight last thursday. today's test follows one on saturday, which was described as uneventful. the 787 dreamliners were all grounded after two of them experienced major problems with their batteries. okay. here's an unsettling stat if you happen to enjoy surfing or a nice ocean swim. there has been an upturn in the number of shark attacks in the u.s. the university of florida, which keeps track, reported today that there were 53 shark attacks last year. that is the most since 2000. researchers say surfers had the most frequent shark encounters.
i'm not surprised, the surfers are actually getting in the most trouble with the sharks. but all in all, wolf, it is still relatively safe if you consider all of the millions of people who spend time swimming in the ocean. >> that's why i'm not a surfer. i don't know about you, but i don't like sharks. >> well, one of the reasons is they have people -- i mean, there are more people, more shark attacks. but they also have surfers going out further and further and doing more daring things. >> stay away from those sharks. >> exactly. good rhys, wolf. schools closed, businesses shut down, hundreds of flights grounded, staying in during this past weekend's blizzard was a smart move. but as cnn discovered when we visited one house in connecticut, it's getting out that is now the problem. it's a new day.
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here's a look at this hour's hot shots. in venice, look at this, a gondolier rides through the canals during carnival. in oman locals watch a cyclist competing in the tour of oman race by. in hong kong fireworks light up the night sky to celebrate the chinese new year. and in malaysia a 4-month-old chimpanzee plays at the national zoo. "hot shots." pictures coming in from around the world. stop for a minute and think about all the things you did this weekend. maybe you went to the store or restaurant. maybe you just messed around in
the back yard. these things weren't possible for so many people in the northeast this past weekend. some of whom have been trapped in their houses since friday. cnn's george howl reports from connecticut. >> reporter: the conditions here in hamden, connecticut really kind of miserable. i mean, you've got the freezing rain. you've got sleet and plenty of snow on the ground. the highways are not so much the problem. it's these neighborhoods. you see that snow plows have gone through and cleared many of the roads but still find people who are stuck in their homes. like right over here. peter curtis. he's lived in that home since 1947 and since friday he's been snowed in with no way to get out. i'm going to come over and see if i can talk to you. >> curtis waited at the front door. >> it's not the easiest walk, as you can imagine. >> reporter: watching curiously to see how deep the snow is that's kept him trapped in his home for days. >> so how long have you been stuck in here?
>> i went to the store friday morning, you know, and got all the stuff i needed. so i've been here since friday. >> i guess i'm your first visitor, if i can make it. >> yeah. good. >> reporter: a vietnam veteran living here alone, curtis says he isn't able to dig himself out of the snow like a lot of his friends but he takes it all in stride. >> well, you know, what you want me to say is i'm -- it's terrible. but i've got books. i'm reading. >> you're catching up on your reading. >> yeah, of course. i've got a book here, a book there. >> reporter: and patience is important. according to hamden's mayor scott jackson. he says digging out from 40 inches of snow will take weeks. >> we have about 240 miles' worth of road. and add of rise now about 50% of them are impassable. >> city has called in extra crews to operate payloaders that scoop up the snow. snow plows have worked around the clock to clear most major highways. and you find people in neighborhoods doing their part. >> i've got my friend.
he lives down the street. and his street isn't plowed. so i owe him a couple, but that's about it. >> reporter: and that's what peter curtis is counting on. >> as far as i'm concerned, okay, i hope to get plowed out or get some boy scouts to come and shovel me out today. >> reporter: neighbors helping neighbors to get life in hamden back to normal. so the good news, we did see some of the snow melt today. but the bad news is it's expected, i should say, to get down into the 20s tonight. so a lot of the water you that see here on the roads, this will turn into black ice, and it will make for a very dicey commute for drivers in the morning, wolf. >> it looks like the weather -- i don't know if they're going to get more snow, but it's going to get cold and there's going to be ice. are they expecting more snow, too? >> reporter: right. well, we did check the forecast. it will be in the 20s through the week as a low. and yes, we checked with our meteorologist. they're expecting more snow later in the week. wolf, to add to the snow that they're already trying to get rid of. >> george howell on the scene for us. lots of snow there in
connecticut. thank you. happening now, the pope shocks the world. he's resigning. stunning revelations from the navy s.e.a.l. who reportedly killed osama bin laden. a fugitive ex-police officer, new video providing new clues. a tornado carves a 75-mile path of destruction. and a fire leaves a cruise ship full of passengers adrift at sea. i'm wolf blitzer. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com for the first time in almost 600 years the leader of the roman catholic church is resigning. pope benedict xvi made the stunning announcement today, saying he's stepping down at the end of the month because of his age and his health.
the news caught everyone off guard, including the men who helped select the next pope. cnn's deborah feyerick is outside st. patrick's cathedral in new york. deb, what kind of reaction are you hearing there? >> reporter: you know, it's so fascinating. i just asked one man about the resignation, which some people are now calling an abdication. and he said, no, i don't see it as a resignation or an abdication, i see it as an early retirement. and he was very sympathetic to the pope's plight and the amount of thinking he probably did in order to make this happen at this time. ♪ >> we've been blessed with almost eight years of his pontificate, and we pray for him and we pray for the church. >> reporter: without any warning cardinals in new york, washington, and across the united states received word virtually the same time as everyone else, getting calls from the vatican that pope
benedict xvi had resigned. >> i was in my office at my residence at 5:00 this morning when i got the news. actually, i was working on some -- some reflections for lent because wednesday is ash wednesday. >> reporter: both the announcement and timing just before the start of the holy weeks leading to easter took everyone by surprise. >> it's like watching your own dad get old and admit that he's not up to all the duties that being the head of a family involves. and there's a somberness there. there's a sadness there. >> reporter: the 85-year-old german-born pope said he no longer had the strength, mental or physical. "i've had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me." cardinal timothy dolan, head of the new york archdiocese and possible contender to fill the job, will also be among the nearly 120 cardinals to choose the new pope. >> i myself am waiting for information, for instructions as
to what we would do now as the college of cardinals. >> reporter: the pope's reign has been tarnished by a child sex abuse scandal and the leaking of his private papers by a former butler. the resignation fueled speculation as to whether health was the only motivating factor. >> i'm just a little bit skeptical, given all that's gone on with the catholic church. >> reporter: others speculated on how a new pope might benefit the church. >> i know my grandparents and stuff, i do like think of the whole church a little bit differently than my generation does, and i feel like we could use somebody maybe a little more younger that has a -- the generation of a new perspective. >> reporter: now, one cardinal noted that yes, while this is unprecedented in modern history, choosing a pope is a 2,000-year-old tradition, it is a tradition that will happen again in the coming months. wolf? >> the next few weeks will be very, very important, deb. thank you. pope benedict xvi was born joseph ratzinger in 1927 in germany. he became a cardinal in 1977 and
was chief theological adviser to pope john paul ii. following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new here, wolf. and i think that's part of the reason this came as a surprise to so many people. certainly we know his age, 85 years old, and as a physician there's all sorts of different things that you certainly worry about. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke. he had a hemorrhage in his brain they think back in 1991 that may have been due to a stroke. but a long time ago, and there was no evidence of anything
recently along those lines. he had a fall where he broke his wrist in 2009. and there's been pictures of him where he seems to maybe more increasingly use a cane, which concern about arthritis and just difficulty getting around. but you know, wolf, it's interesting because a cane is such a surprise even to people who are closer to him. it doesn't seem like there was any specific health event that happened recently or even things had progressed to the point where it suddenly became obvious. this seems like more of a threshold just in terms of fatigue both as he put it, both physically and mentally, wolf. >> there's no doubt, sanjay, that being the pope, the leader of, what a billion catholics around the world, it includes a lot of traveling, a lot of speaking. it's a very, very arduous job. do you think that could have an impact on his health? >> yeah. i think there's no doubt. i mean, that kind of travel, just mass several times a week, traveling just even within italy, let alone outside the country so many times, that takes a toll no matter what kind
of resources you have. and as you get older, it just becomes increasingly difficult. you know, we talk about things that are problematic with travel. your increased propensity to develop blood clots. the increased stress. the weakened immune system as a result. so even, you know, more innocuous problems or problems that don't seem as magnified can become worse as a result of that travel. also just the cognitive abilities. again, there's been no suggestion other than what you've read that he wrote himself about his cognitive, you know, abilities, whether or not they've declined. but it becomes hard. again, as a result of all that travel. you know, he had a moving platform, for example, to even walk the 100 feet, for example, was becoming increasingly difficult. so i think that that, you know, certainly it plays a role and as you get older it plays a bigger role. wolf, after the age of 45 you lose about a percent of your muscle mass every year. after the age of 45. he's 85. so 40 years, you know, he's been losing muscle mass about a percent a year. so it just is harder to get
around. >> he's almost 86. in april he'll be 86 years old. and you speak about stress and the impact that could have on someone's health. as deb feyerick pointed out there have been some scandals, there have been some serious issues that have plagued the vaktd over these past few years that he's been the hope. how much of an impact could stress have on his physical vae health? >> you know, wolf, it's interesting, i wanted to give you a very concise answer to that question. i was talking to some folks who are specialists in this area who focus on longevity and specifically study these issues in people who are in their eighth and ninth decade of life and the answer is a little more complicated. it basically is that everyone deals with it a little bit differently. so the impact on your physical health, on your physical life, really truly is going to vary person to person. and i don't want to sort of give you a roundabout answer, but there are some people who deal with extraordinary amounts of stress, even thrive on it as they get older. and they're doing more than ever. whereas some people, as you're
saying, wolf, or alluding to, it could have an impact not only on their cognitive health, their ability to remember and recall things but their physical health as well, their immune system. they're more likely to get illnesses as a result of that stress. so it just varies. and again, you read the letter that he wrote. you can read between the lines of some of that. it sounds like it has all reached a threshold, as best i could describe it from reading that, wolf. >> it certainly does. we wish obviously the pope only the best. and good luck to him down the road. appreciate you too as well, sanjay gupta. >> you got it. later this hour i'm going to be speaking with cardinal theodore mccarrick. he's in rome right now. we'll get his thoughts on this stunning development today. a former member of the u.s. navy s.e.a.l. team six is now breaking his silence about that may 2011 raid that killed osama bin laden. and what he's revealing about who fired the shots that killed the al qaeda leader is, simply put, stunning. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence has been following this story for us. update our viewers, chris.
what's going on? >> beyond the who, wolf, he's talking about the fact that they used hand signals communicating, hardly talked at all on the raid, that the military dog who was with them was not a german shepherd but a belgian malenois who had been shot in the chest on a previous mission and survived. so if you think that you have heard everything about those last crucial seconds leading into bin laden's death, think again. who shot osama bin laden? and how did he die? we thought we knew. from accounts of the real raid -- >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden. >> reporter: -- to the hollywood movie. but an "esquire" magazine interview with a member of the s.e.a.l. team is raising new questions about what happened on that third floor of bin laden's compound. "esquire" simply calls him "the shooter" and says he fired the shots that killed bin laden.
>> he was very unused to this idea of shooting up. so he wasn't prepared for somebody quite as tall as -- bin laden was much taller than he expected. so he talks about having to aim his gun up. >> reporter: the shooter says after his point man shot and missed from the second level both men climbed the stairs to bin laden's bedroom. as the point man peeled off in the hallway to subdue two of bin laden's screaming wives, the shooter entered the room. "there was bin laden standing there. he had his hands on a woman's shoulders, pushing her ahead. not exactly toward me but by me. maybe as a shield. i don't know. he's got a gun on a shfl right there, the short ak he's famous for." >> and he shot him once in the forehead and another time in the forehead as he was going down and then a third time in the forehead when he was at the foot of his bed. obviously probably already dead. >> but that account conflicts with another s.e.a.l. on the raid, who spoke with "60 minutes" last year. >> so you're right behind the
point man. >> yep. i kind of tried to look around him, hear him take a couple shots, kind of see ahead, somebody disappear back into the room. >> reporter: in his book matt bisonnette says when they entered the bedroom bin laden was down on the floor, already dead. "the point man's shots had entered the right side of his head." cnn can't verify either story. but our sources say the shooter's account is more credible in that bin laden was alive and standing when the s.e.a.l.s entered the room. so why come forward now? because president obama got accolades for authorizing the mission. bissonnette's book hit the best zeller list and "zero dark thirty" raked in millions and awards. but the shooter himself, he's out of the navy and struggling to file a disability claim. >> he gets no pension. zero pension. >> reporter: so the shooter is looking for a job with a feeling
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killings, believed to be part of a vend ka against law enforcement. cnn's miguel marquez is in los angeles. he's joining us now. what's the latest, miguel, that you're hearing out there? >> reporter: los angeles police, wolf, say that there are now 700 clues that have been called in from people across the area. the region out here with regard to mr. dorner. as fear grips southern california. nervous students return. schools finally reopened in big bear. >> there's a bad guy on the loose, and we don't want to get shot by him. >> reporter: today it's security along with students. >> today we feel much better. there's a lot of -- you can see a lot of police presence out here. >> reporter: it's the southern california new normal. life on high alert. >> we will not tolerate this reign of terror that has robbed us of the peace of mind that residents of southern california deserve.
>> reporter: the search for dorner stretching from nevada to the mexican border and now a warning from tsa to regional airports and airplane owners. dorner has some flying experience. authorities concerned about an escape attempt or a threat from the air. los angeles police headquarters and its stations across the city remain under guard. the homes of more than 50 lapd families threatened in dorner's manifesto protected by police 24 hours a day. no end till the alleged killer is found. >> we will capture dorner. we will bring him to justice. >> reporter: investigators say the axle on dorner's truck broke, he left weapons and camping gear behind, torching it all, perhaps a sign his plans went awry, forced to change course. in the mountains east of los angeles some 600 cabins searched. that trail now cold. dorner sightings pouring in. a los angeles lowe's home store was emptied sunday after a false
alarm. shoppers forced out singlephile. heavy police response. no dorner but plenty of frayed nerves. one thing police are saying out here, wolf-s that if someone does see mr. dorner immediately right now to call 911, don't call their tip line. but they really don't at the moment have anything to tell people who are just worried and concerned across southern california. they're basically just asking the public, hoping the public can help them catch this guy. wolf? >> and they're doing everything they possibly can. it doesn't seem to me, and i spoke to the mayor of los angeles in the last hour, that they are -- they're on anybody's hot trail right now as they say, that they got a lot of tips, they got a lot of clues. but it doesn't look like anything necessarily is panning out. >> that's the sense in talking to investigators right now. sometimes they're just keeping everything very close to the vest. that is not my sense at the moment. it seems that they have a lot of information they're sifting through but they don't have any
of those really hot leads that they might be tracking down. certainly if there was something abreu there are so many reporters and so many people out there watching this, we would know pretty quickly, wolf. >> miguel marquez in l.a. working the story. thank you. one clue found in an alley behind an auto parts store near san diego. cnn has obtained this exclusive video that shows a man fitting dorner's description dropping something in a dumpster. and listen to what a store employee found inside. >> one of the employees, he came back with a clip, like a magazine full of bullets, a belt, a military belt, and a helmet. >> investigators now have those items and they have the surveillance tape as well. we'll update you on new information. as it comes into "the situation room." three people are dead following a wild gun battle inside a courthouse. we have new details on that when we come back. . with an advanced degree in education from capella university,
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seemingly indefensibible outpos in afghanistan in 2009. >> these men were outnumbered, outgunned, and almost overrun. looking back, one of them said "i'm surprised any of us made it out." but they are here today. and i would ask these soldiers, this band of brothers, to stand and accept the gratitude of our entire nation. >> romesha's fellow soldiers attending the ceremony. you can see they stood there to be recognized. the medal of honor recipient said the joy of receiving the honor was countered by the reminder of those who were lost in battle. and in other news, in the northeast the digging and the plowing from last week's blizzard is far from over. in connecticut one mayor says, "we are all buried." main roads are clearing, but abandoned cars are making that job difficult. tens of thousands of people still have no power. flights resume sunday at boston's logan airport. and amtrak has restored limited
service. okay. in california the bakersfield condors, well, they had an idea. let's have a real condor perched on the ice when the national anthem in the game last weekend. it didn't work out so well. you can see the condor -- oh, boy. he had several other ideas. he and his trainer, they reached the center of the ice, but the bird kept trying to run away. the trainer slipped more than once, got some bumps and bruises, but went on. aye, aye, aye. with another performance during the intermission. the bird, by the way, just for the record, in case people are wondering, the bird is fine. but that just shows you, it sounded like a great idea, wolf. just not in practice. right? >> exactly. and you don't mess with a condor. especially on the ice. >> yeah. that's a really large bird. he's got other ideas, definitely, wolf. >> pretty bird, too. the bird can fly, too. all right. thank you. all right. so all eyes are on the vatican right now.
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countries all around the globe will come together for a conclave in the sistine chapel. this word is the appropriate word because it means "with a key" in latin. and essentially, they're going to be locked in until they can come up with a new leader. a new leader for the more than 1 billion catholics all around the planet. the cardinals are sworn to secrecy about this vote. and they will not have any real contact with the outside world while they deliberate who's going to get the job and exactly what issues he will probably face. 2/3 vote plus one is necessary for an election. 2/3 majority plus one. they'll have four votes per day. two in the morning, two in the afternoon. and they have to produce this advantage. however, if this goes on for 12 or 13 days, they can decide to reduce it to a simple majority vote. beyond that, how does the vote itself proceed? well, what they do is they each receive a piece of paper on the
top of which is written "eligo in summum pontificem." that's latin for "i elect a supreme pontiff." then they have a blank and each person will write a name there, each cardinal. then he will fold it and carry that piece of paper to the altar, holding it up. he will drop it onto a plate, which in turn is used to tip it into a chalice. that way everyone can see one vote per person. then they have a committee of the cardinals who have the job of counting these votes. they are called the scrutineers. they are selected randomly each day. what they have to do is count all the ballots to make sure there's the same number of ballots as cardinals in the room so everyone knows it is a fair vote. second they have to go through them and each one reads to ascertain which names were written. as each ballot is recorded, this is fascinating to me, they take a piece of thread with a needle and they stick it through the ballot and they thread each one of the ballots.
so they can see this one has been threaded, it cannot be accidentally counted again or dropped or anything else. and they go through until they're all done, and then they knot that to produce one record of the vote. and the results are announced to the room. if they have not produced a pontiff or if they have, they burn the ballots either way. the bottom line is if they have not selected a pope, they add a chemical or wet straw to the ballots as they burn them, and dark smoke comes out of the chimney up here so people can know they have not reached a result. but if they have selected a new pope, they add nothing, they simply burn the ballots, and white smoke comes out and the world knows that a new pope has been chosen. wolf? >> a lot of tradition. a lot of precise tradition in that whole process. tom, thanks very much. even inside the vatican itself there was shock at the news of the pope's resignation, including at the highest levels of the church leadership.
>> and cardinal theodore mccarrick is joining us now from rome. he's the former cardinal, the archbishop of washington, d.c. he's the archbishop emeritus right now. your eminence, thank you so much for joining us on this day. how surprised were you when you heard the news about pope benedict xvi? >> well, i think we all were very surprised. we had no prior -- at least i had no prior warning. i was in rome by accident. the catholic conference of the united states is beginning to do some more work to help the church in africa, and that's what i was here, trying to set this up in rome. but i turned on the radio and i didn't hear anything. and then i got a phone call saying turn on the television. and then we heard it. extraordinary news. startling and historic. >> very historic indeed. tell us what you can about the pope's health. what do we know about that?
>> well, i probably know less than you do. but as far as i know, he has looked -- he has looked tired sometimes, more often in the last few times i've seen him on television. but he always speaks well. he's -- what he says makes a lot of sense. and he's very, very thoughtful and seems fine. he does appear tired, though, now. and i guess that is -- that's a sign of age and a sign of the fact that he's worked so hard over the years, that he's now maybe needing to have some time to rest, some time to pray more. i think also it's a possibility that he would want to give everything he had and he would want to be able to do everything that the church wanted him to do. and so i think if he felt -- i believe he said once or twice if he felt he could no longer serve
then he probably would step down. and i think this is probably his own decision after a long prayerful study of it. he wants what's best for the church. and at this point i guess he feels that he is not able to do all the things that he feels the church needs in today's difficult and challenging world. >> he is 85, almost 86 years old. he'll be 86 in april. what's been the reaction amongst your peers, amongst your colleagues there at the vatican? >> well, i've been -- it was a rainy day today. it was not a day to go out and chat among the brothers. so i don't have any other information than you do probably. i've been listening to the television and hearing some remarks by some of the cardinals, and i think they are as surprised as i am. and i think the feeling
generally is that this has been an extraordinary man who's been our pope for the last almost eight years. a holy man, a humble man, a man who is a great theologian. perhaps one of the finest theologians in hundreds of years that have sat on the throne of peter. and so i think he has done so many great things in the era of faith that we're in today. he was the brainchild of -- the prayer child of his holiness. so a lot of good things have come from the holy father over the last eight years. and i guess he -- maybe he feels that now he's not able to do that as much as he could in the past and so he doesn't want to stand in the way of church's moving forward, as i said before, in a very challenging time, in a much more challenging world that we've ever had before, i think. >> cardinal mccarrick, thank you so much, your eminence, for joining us. we really appreciated this. and i hope we'll be able to stay
in close touch over the next several weeks. if not we'll see you definitely back here in washington. thank you. >> i'm certainly looking forward to talking to you more. let's pray for the holy father and for the future of the church. >> by the way, i had a chance to meet with pope benedict xvi when he visited the catholic university of america back in 2008. here's a picture of when i met with pope benedict. that was then the president of catholic university in between us, father david o'connell, who's now a bishop in trenton, the archdiocese in trenton. it was a very, very exciting moment to meet with pope benedict xvi at catholic university in 2008. let me take this opportunity to wish him only, only the best in these coming weeks, months, and years, especially now that he's announced he's retiring because of his health and his age. coming up, a vacation at sea ruined when a cruise ship catches fire, leaving thousands trapped at sea living like "a
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>> are you all right? >> they're just trees. i'll be careful. >> here you go. >> reporter: joan stevens and her husband ray survived the tornado that blackened the skies over hattiesburg, caught on amateur video. the funnel was one of several tornadoes to batter this part of mississippi. the stevens' house is in pieces, but they made it out without a scratch. >> the two of you were just -- >> right here. and aggie was right here, our dog. >> and i just got her under me and was laying on her. >> we were just literally right here on the floor and just covered up on each other. >> reporter: it could have been so much worse for so many. 200 houses and 100 apartments were damaged or destroyed. but in the immediate aftermath there were no deaths. only two were seriously injured. the stevens credit warning sirens the city installed just two years ago. >> we had been watching television since we got home from church. >> so you were ready for this. >> we were ready as ready could
be. >> reporter: the stevens say they had just a matter of minutes from the time they first heard the alarm to when the storm actually hit. afterward, when they came out and saw all of this damage, they realized that that warning was just enough for people to take cover because when they started checking on their neighbors no one on this street in spite of all this damage was hurt. the national weather service says parts of hattiesburg had up to 30 minutes' warning before the tornado touched down. city officials also say the timing of the storm was fortunate. on a sunday afternoon the local high school was almost empty when it hit, and the university of southern mississippi, one historic building badly damaged, had fewer than usual students on campus because of a mardi gras holiday. still, all across the tornado's path there were countless close calls. hattiesburg's mayor was one of them. >> this was all going on in a matter of seconds. >> oh, this is seconds. >> you were running for your life. >> literally for my life. >> reporter: mayor johnny dupree managed to get inside his house just in time. the 100-year-old home and the
neighborhood took a beating. >> looking at all the damage, is there one thing that really, really hurts today? >> here? >> here, in your house. >> no. because we're going to replace all this. i mean, nothing hurts. i mean, not here. i relish the fact that nobody in hattiesburg was killed. no fatalities. the rest of this can be replaced. >> reporter: but they're not quite out of the woods yet here because the rain hasn't stopped. we're looking at possibly hours more of rain. some possible flash flooding here. but the goal right now is to get all of the roads cleared and get the power restored to at least about 4,000 people, wolf, who still do not have electricity right now. >> yeah. as you point out, it could have been so much worse. dauf david, thank you. it's bad enough to lose power when you're at home. but when you're stranded at sea with 4,000 other people, things can get pretty ugly. cnn's sandra endo reports. >> reporter: snapshots of a ruined vacation. this carnival cruise ship adrift
at sea, stuck in the gulf of mexico. >> it's a big mess. i mean, there's no power. there's no toilets. there's no food. it's like a bunch of savages on there. >> reporter: that's how one husband says his wife described the situation when she called to tell him a fire knocked out the engine on board sunday. about 150 miles off the coast of the yucatan peninsula. the fire broke out as the "triumph" was heading back to galveston, texas after a four-day voyage to cozumel. carnival cruises says the emergency generator kicked on once the fire occurred but half some elevators weren't working. >> she was crying and everything and she just wants off the ship. i mean, it's horrible. they're having to use the restroom in buckets and bags. >> reporter: two sister ships restocked the "triumph" with extra food and drinks. carnival says there's limited hot food and coffee for guests. a coast guard cutter and two tug boats met the ship monday so the
vessel could be towed to the nearest port, progreso, mexico. >> right now we believe everything here is safe and secure. the communications with the master has been open and honest. >> reporter: a similar engine failure happened just two years ago when carnival "splendor" lost power and was adrift for days off the coast of mexico. one passenger reflects on his experience. >> since it was a vacation, i feel like it was a waste of my time pretty much and money to save up for it and then actually go on a trip. i think that the worst part about this experience for me was the food was starting to spoil and it was just god-awful smells coming from their kitchen areas. god-awful smells coming from the bathrooms. overflowing toilets. >> a report from sandra endo. the "triumph," by the way, is expected to make it to shore by wednesday. those on board will be flown back to their respective home
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call it that, is not all errors will affect somebody's ability to get credit and only about 2 pesh of the reports had mistakes that were serious enough to lower people's scores or increase their credit rate they were quoted, but it still works out to roughly 10 million americans being denied loans or getting high interest rates. most credit card accounts, car loans, personal loans, and mortgages are approved on data from them. if there's a mistake, it can have pretty serious consequences. most mistakes, i have to say, are pretty immaterial. things like a missteled street name or a wrong middle name. other mistakes can be serious, as things as bad as a bad debt that belongs to someone else or a missed payment you pay on time. many consumers had tougher time getting their serious errors being fixed. >> what do consumers need to
know if they want to get their reports fixed? >> well, first of all, i can't say check enough. it's so important to look at your credit record from all three beerureaus and make sure every line by line is correct. every person is granted a free credit report, you can go to annualcreditreport.com. if there is an error, you should dispute it with the credit repo and your to both places. tell them what's wrong and why. know in advance there's. no guarantee of a quick fix. both sides have to look thoroughing into the dispute. that can take time. >> good advice. cnn's erin burnett is going "outfront" on the manhunt in southern california. give us a preview.
>> you know, wolf, it's been amazing what you have been hearing in talk radio in los angeles. incredibly angry words, and some on behalf of the alleged shooter, christopher dorner, and today, the lapd chief weighing in saying, i'm going to quote him here, the ghosts of the past of the lapd. he hears people think there could be something to the allegations dorner has put forth about racism and bias in the lapd, and they're looking into. we're also going to talk to jay paterno, the son of joe paterno. he has come out with a report saying his father was blameless in the jerry sandusky child rape case. that's at the top of the hour. back to you. >> thank you. by the way, the l.a. mayor, antonio vearrayicosa was here in the last hour. here's what he had to say directly to christopher dorner. >> christopher, turn yourself in. you have caused a lot of pain and anguish to too many
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